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Interview with Nate Cassie – Ruiz-Healy Art

Interview with Nate Cassie
By RHA Intern Posted June 19, 2019 In Blog

Nate Cassie has always had an exploratory approach to materials, working in a variety of mediums
including drawing, painting, sculpture, video and digital media. Cassie states that the drive behind his
thematic practice centers around what he terms the “space in between.” Cassie seeks to explore the gaps
in structure, form, and systems both formally and conceptually. In this new series, Cassie has returned
to ceramics, making functional pieces intended for communal use. Throughout the run of his dual show
with Constance Lowe Minding the Gaps, Cassie intends to host dinners using ceramics and furniture
that he has crafted. I wanted to know more about this interactive element, and how the functionality of
his new work ﬁts into the “space in between” and his traditionally conceptually focused work. During
the installation of the show, I sat with Nate Cassie and asked him about this new body of work and how
it continues his previous explorations. Minding the Gaps opens at Ruiz-Healy on June 5th, and will be
on view until July 27th.
You talk about the “space in between” frequently when asked about your work. I was wondering
if you could talk more about what this “in between” is for you and how you explore this space
both formally and conceptually.
So for me, the space in between can be lots of things. It can simply be negative space within a piece,
but more conceptually it has to do with the idea of connectivity. For example, if you and I have a
connection, there’s nothing physical connecting us necessarily. However, there can be some conceptual,
emotional, or spiritual connection that exists in the space between us. This happens in a lot of the
ceramic pieces because they are about food or drinking and those are communal activities. So that
brings people together and that idea of community has been an important element in my work for many
years.
How does this approach change between your 2D and 3D works? Is there much of a difference?
With this new work, the ceramic work, there is a
difference since it is actually functional work. It is meant
to be both visual but also functional, you are able to use
it. With the 2D work, I ﬁnd imagery that is referencing
the idea of connectivity and place like the tree drawings
or prints those are very speciﬁc trees to a speciﬁc place,
time, or people I was involved with. Like the Bryant
Park tree came from a January day sitting by a park with
my wife Ethel and our friend Katy Siegel and just kind
of enjoying this moment and then looking up and seeing
these beautiful London plane trees that are of course
totally bare because it’s winter time. An intaglio, by the
same name, was executed later from this experience. The
pattern of their branches interested me, so that visual of
the tree marks that particular place, but also that
particular moment in time.

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That is really interesting to think about: the in-between relationally with people but also formally.
This leads into what I was going to ask next. The communal element in this work, have you made
interactive art like this before? Or is this new to you?
I have. I have done projects where I have involved artists making art with me. I did this whole
birdhouse/beehive series where I was asking artists for drawings and I was trading art with them for
that. I’ve done art where I have involved the general public. I did a couple of pieces for Luminaria that
were sort of similar in their communal nature. I built a sculptural replica of Chuck Ramirez’s dinner
table to then invite people to gather at. It’s not always what I am doing, but it is something that I keep
coming back around to in my work.
So for this speciﬁc body of work, what made you add this communal element? Was this concept
there from the beginning? Or is this something you thought of incorporating after making the
work?
I got interested in ceramics because I had this idea
of making 400 cups for the 2018 Artpace gala that
Ethel (artist Ethel Shipton) and I hosted to have a
toast to Linda Pace. So, I started with that and then
it kind of went from there. I also like to cook so I
was interested in how dishes are used for speciﬁc
foods, particularly within certain Japanese cooking
styles there are very speciﬁc notions about how
food, plates, and dishes go together. So that is kind
of where it came out of. However, I don’t want to
just make copies of Japanese ceramics. I’m not a
potter, I am a conceptual artist who is currently
South Texas Dinnerware Set – 77 pieces,
making ceramic pieces that are functional. There
2019, Porcelain and Stoneware with Natural
are people who spend their whole lives doing that
Ash and Oxide Glazes
one thing, and I don’t want to compare myself to
them because they are doing a very different thing
from what I am doing.
There is a particular Japanese artist that I was pretty inspired by. This guy Rosanjin who was an early
20th-century food guy, but also was trained as a calligrapher and painter. He started this gourmet supper
club in Japan and he was collecting old Japanese pieces to serve food on. However, in 1923, there was
an earthquake that basically leveled Tokyo and he lost all of his ceramics. So, because he wanted to
keep doing this, he had to ﬁgure out how to redo it and he decided he didn’t like any of the things he
could buy so he just started to make it. Initially, he started to work with other potters, but then he started
his own production facility and made hundreds of things but to me, he is a really interesting character
so he was kind of an inspiration for some of this stuff too.
How does the idea of the functional change the nature of these pieces for you when you are
making them? Does that element impact that concept for you?
It impacts the form more than anything, right. I think that is one of the interesting things about ceramics
is that if they are going to be functional, it can’t cut your lip. It has to feel right in your hand. The
formal or physical aspect of art has always interested me. Whether it is a painting needing a certain
physicality or a print. Even the prints are very physical because you are cutting into this metal plate. I
have always been very drawn to work that has a certain physicality to it.
What I ﬁnd really interesting about this work speciﬁcally is it is heavily conceptual but it’s also
very functional. I feel like those are two things that you wouldn’t naturally think of going
together.
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Right. I think that is true, but there are also artists who work in that vein. One artist in speciﬁc comes to
mind, Roy McMakin, who makes furniture and more recently architecture, but it is still art on some
level. So yes that is an interesting vein to me and it is partly due to that connectivity. Again, back to the
viewer or the user not just in the way of commerce or visual appreciation but also physicality.
And usage and interaction.
Yes, exactly.
I have one last question. How does the concept of domesticity function within these pieces?  
That’s a great question because Connie Lowe and I were talking about that when we ﬁrst started talking
about speciﬁc pieces because both of our work has a certain domestic quality to it. From my side of
things, furniture and ceramics both used to speak to a really speciﬁc place. In other words, if you were
making a table in South Texas in the 19th century it looked really different probably from a table
someone is making in Philadelphia at the same time. That’s less true now because you can go to IKEA
anywhere and buy a table and it looks the same in Sweden as it does in Live Oak. It’s the same with
ceramics. If you were making ceramics in the 19th century in South Texas you were probably digging
up clay from the river, and that was the one particular type of clay you were going to use because it was
on your farm or property. That’s less true now, but furniture and ceramics still can speak to a particular
time and place. Just knowing these cups that somebody, me, physically with my hands made all those
little pieces brings this sense of physical presence. They bear the mark of making and I’ve tried to leave
that mark, both in the furniture pieces and the ceramic pieces. You see how they are physically made.
As a friend of ours used to say, they are not overproduced. They are sanded but unﬁnished and there
isn’t a seal so they feel kind of alive in that way.
I was actually wondering how these series ﬁt into the “space in between” but that question kind of
answered that for me: the table and the ceramics have this handmade quality it does hit that time
and place. As you were saying this speciﬁcity was done historically, but now you are doing it
through your ceramics which ﬁts into your previous work.
I’m glad it made sense!
 
Recorded: May 30, 2019
Interviewed and Written by: Kristina Reinis
Minding the Gaps will be on view June 5 – July 27, 2019

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"What Shall We Call Thee Then?": Defining
Femininity Outside the Male Heteronormative
World in John Donne's "Sappho to Philaenis"
Kristina Reinis
Trinity University, kreinis@trinity.edu

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“What Shall We Call
Thee Then?”: Defining
Femininity Outside the Male
Heteronormative World in
John Donne’s “Sappho to
Philaenis”
Kristina Reinis

D

uring the English Renaissance, men determined the identity and
social standing of women. Manuscripts from this period that discuss gender relations and roles make this dependency clear, and, in particular,
many of the essays that establish proper female conduct define respectable female behavior through a woman’s relationship to a man. For example, Robert
Dod and John Cleaver state in their marital conduct book A godly form of
household government, “ ... so the woman deserveth no commendation that, (as
it were) contrarying her husband when he is merry, showeth herself sad, or in
sadness uttereth her mirth. For as men should obey the laws of their cities, so
women the manners of their husbands.”1 Dod and Cleaver make clear that the
behavior, emotions, and actions of a woman are defined by a man (in this case,
her husband), and, as a result, the identity of a woman is expected to be defined
and fulfilled by the man. The dependency of femininity on masculinity is further shown in Henry Smith’s A preparative to marriage, where he states that “the
philosophers could not tell how to define a wife, but called her the contrary to
a husband, as though nothing were so cross and contrary to a man as a wife.”2
While Smith admits this is not scripture, he claims that this statement holds

nonetheless: femininity is what masculinity is not. These two declarations on
women’s behavior and identity suggest the larger understanding of gender at
the time: in the Renaissance, the categorization of women depended on men.
However, when Queen Elizabeth I was on the throne and ruling without a
king, male anxiety began to rise, and the validity of masculine authority came
to be questioned. Describing the rising masculine anxiety in England in this
period, Mark Breitenberg argues that the discourse at the time regarding gender roles slowly threatened the idea of the “natural” superiority of men.3 In the
late sixteenth century, this environment helped set the tone for John Donne’s
elegies and, in particular, his “Sappho to Philaenis.” In most of his love elegies,
Donne challenges the stability of gender identity. Diane Benet observes that
in much of that work, Donne seems to provide social commentary on the rising anxiety surrounding gender roles by focusing on “sexual transgressions,”
especially those that challenge male authority, as in “Jealousy,” “Change,” or
“Perfume.”4 In his elegy “Sappho to Philaenis,” Donne challenges this stability
further by producing one of the first lesbian love poems in the English language.5 Barbara Correll argues, similarly to Benet, that this subject is not out of
character for Donne, insofar as the crisis of signification and masculine gender
identity structures many of his heteroerotic poems.6 In this elegy, Donne presents the romantic relationship between two women, Sappho and Philaenis, and
their ideal world that excludes men. Due to its subversive subject matter, the
elegy was censored, highly contested, and therefore, until recently, overlooked
by scholars, who have struggled to place it in the canon of a poet whose work is
typically characterized by a strong and dominating masculine voice.7 To begin
to correct this critical neglect, Stanley Fish’s analysis of “On his Mistress going
to bed” can prove useful, allowing us to contextualize “Sappho to Philaenis”
within Donne’s body of work. In “On his Mistress,” as Fish observes, “Masculine authority can be asserted only in relation to a firmly defined opposite. ...
In order for him to be a man she must be unmistakable and essentially a woman.”8 Here, Fish points out two main elements present in John Donne’s elegies.
First, he observes Donne’s recognition that men and women define each other
through a comparative binary. Second, he notices the pervading fear that this
gender identity could become unstable: without it, one’s masculine or feminine identity falls apart. Through “Sappho to Philaenis,” Donne expands on
this anxiety by pushing on rigid gender categorization and by breaking the
comparative binary. He does so by removing the man from the equation and
centering his elegy on a homoerotic relationship between two women, leaving
femininity to define itself.
In “Sappho to Philaenis,” Donne considers desire, language, and representation apart from a typical male-focused and heterosexual perspective. Donne
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tive world, and, as a result, the crisis of both language and representation introduced in the beginning of the elegy escalates. As they move further outside
the heteronormative world, the identities of both Sappho and Philaenis slowly
break down until their individual images are deconstructed, and this breakdown of representation and language in the lesbian love elegy points to the
limits and failure of a male-defined heteronormative world to identify women
outside of men. Through the subversion of traditional gender roles, Donne destabilizes the security of gender signification and reveals the performative and
constructive nature of gender itself. The final breakdown of representation reveals the struggle for women to exist outside of a heteronormative male-centric
world, ultimately bringing into question the essentialist nature of the gender
binary and of heterosexuality.
In the first twelve lines, Sappho contextualizes the elegy with the crisis of
desire and the subsequent failure of language. Sappho begins the elegy by asking, “Where is that holy fire, which verse is said / To have? Is that enchanting
force decayed? ... Thee, her best work, to her work cannot draw” (1-2, 4).9 In
these lines, Sappho, an honored and esteemed Greek love poet, laments the
loss of her poetic voice and her ability to use language.10 Both her status and
authority as a poet emphasize the gravity and impact of this loss, and Sappho
quickly identifies her desire for Philaenis as the source of this breakdown. She
states, “Have my tears quenched my old poetic fire; / Why quenched they not
as well, that of desire?” (5-6). In this moment, Sappho pinpoints Philaenis as the
source of this loss of language.11 She states that her intense need for Philaenis—
as represented through her tears—“quenched” her poetic ability. In these first
six lines, Sappho centers the elegy around her failure of language. Through this
introduction, Donne contextualizes the elegy around a crisis of language and
desire, which leads to the further breakdown of her speech.
This separation of language from desire evolves into the breakdown of
representation. When speaking of her image of Philaenis, Sappho states, “Only
thine image, in my heart, doth sit, / But that is wax, and fires environ it. / My
fires have driven, thine have drawn it hence” (9-11). Immediately after detailing the collapse of language, the breakdown of representation does not fall
far behind. Frantically, Sappho attempts to capture the beautiful image of her
lost love. In these three lines, Sappho’s intense desire transforms into a raging
fire. She states that just as fire changes wax, her desire melts and dismantles
the remaining image she possessed of Philaenis. Sappho laments this melting
image when she cries, “And I am robbed of picture, heart, and sense” (12). Her
desire not only breaks down her power over language, but this “fire” also creates an unstable and intangible representation of Philaenis. This focus on the
crisis of desire in the beginning of the elegy introduces Sappho’s struggle with
language and signification that continues for the rest of the elegy. As Correll

argues, “‘Sappho to Philaenis’ is Donne’s crisis poem.”12 By introducing this
struggle of signification, these first twelve lines help to provide a framework
of failed representation through which the rest of “Sappho to Philaenis” can be
understood.
This failure of language and representation does not simply derive from
desiring Philaenis: it also comes from Sappho’s inability to “place” her desire
and Philaenis, as both reside outside a male-centric heteronormative world.
Shortly after Sappho introduces her struggle with speech and representation,
she poses a question to Philaenis that hits at the core of her crisis: “For, if we
justly call each silly man / A little world, what shall we call thee then?” (19-20).
Sappho confronts the belief that the ordinary man can encompass the world
and serve as a representation of humankind. Noting this confrontation, H. L.
Meakin observes that Sappho, by pointing to “man” as a false universal, reveals
“woman’s ‘present absence’ in the ubiquitous noun [i.e., man] which supposedly refers to human ‘being.’” As a result, “Donne reveals a radical awareness of
the gender politics which operate in language.”13 Therefore, Donne’s Sappho
reveals two things when she asks Philaenis, “What shall we call thee then?”
First, she reveals that Philaenis does not belong in the heteronormative masculine world, and second, that there is no language to represent Philaenis and
this female experience outside heteronormative categorization. In other words,
Sappho asks how, if men serve as the representation of humankind, does one
define a woman who exists outside of the bounds of heteronormative masculinity. This question works to contextualize Sappho’s previous failure of language and her struggle to represent Philaenis in the first twelve lines. How can
Philaenis be understood, identified, or represented when she resides outside the
heteronormative world, and how can Sappho place her desire for her? Lines
19-20 reveal that Sappho’s collapse of language and representation do not simply stem from intense desire. Sappho cannot identify or represent Philaenis because she does not belong in a typical heteronormative category, and therefore
heterosexual male love poetry (and language) cannot describe or identify her.
Sappho continues to distinguish Philaenis and her desire by discarding the
conventions of male heteronormative Petrarchan poetry. As a result, the identity of Philaenis becomes more abstract and isolated, as language continues to
prove to be insufficient to identify both her and Sappho’s desire for her.14 Addressing Philaenis, Sappho states,
Thou are not soft, and clear, and straight, and fair,
As down, as stars, cedars, and lilies are
But thy right hand, and cheek, and eye, only
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In these lines, Sappho refers to the modes of comparison and the masculine
love tropes often used in Petrarchan poetry. Throwing out these traditions, she
declares that they are unable to fully capture Philaenis’ beauty. This is not Sappho’s only rejection of Petrarchan tropes in the elegy. In lines 15-18, Sappho
undermines another trope: portraying a woman as a god-like figure. When
Sappho states, “As gods, when gods to thee I do compare, / Are graced thereby,”
she insinuates that even the gods cannot fully represent the beauty of Philaenis’
image, as they are the ones who are honored by her comparison (16-17). Once
again, language fails fully to represent the beauty of her beloved. However, the
failures in both these moments are not simply the result of Philaenis’ unimaginable beauty. Instead, this absence is a result of Philaenis’ place outside the
male heterosexual world. By referencing Petrarchan conventions—a male-centric heterosexual mode of love poetry—Sappho juxtaposes homosexual desire
with heterosexual desire. By stating that the tropes of masculine heterosexual
desire are insufficient, Sappho further separates her desire and Philaenis from
the heteronormative world. This separation prompts an important question:
what is left outside of this world? In lines 23-24, Sappho states that the only
proper comparison that can be made for Philaenis is Philaenis herself. In other
words, Sappho cannot find sufficient language to represent Philaenis, who is
thus left to define herself. In this moment, her image begins to collapse in on
itself, since there is no difference and no signification. Her identity becomes
even more arbitrary than it was when she was first introduced, and, further, the
need for Philaenis to rely on her own image for identification re-emphasizes
the lack of language and modes of representation outside the male-centric society. As Sappho pushes Philaenis further outside categorization by dismissing
the language of masculine Petrarchan love poetry, Philaenis’ identity becomes
vaguer and more unrecognizable.
Philaenis exists outside of the heteronormative male world, but Sappho
also separates herself from it. In lines 25-26, she states, “Such was my Phao
awhile, but shall be never, / As thou wast, art, and, oh, mayst thou be ever”
(25-26). In these lines, Donne references Ovid’s tale of Sappho and Phaon,
found in the fifteenth epistle in his Heroides.15 In that story, Sappho throws
herself off a cliff and commits suicide after her male lover Phaon rejects her.16
In line 25 of Donne’s elegy, Sappho rejects the myth that she killed herself for
a man, and in so doing she also casts out the myth of her heterosexual desire.
In this moment, as Stella Revard observes, Sappho makes the shift from a male
heterosexual-reminiscent speaker to a firmly female homosexual speaker.17 In
line 26, Sappho makes it clear that her love for Philaenis is superior to her love
for Phaon, stating that Phaon will never be what Philaenis is for her. She thus
dispenses with her existence in the heteronormative world and makes clear that
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To reinforce their shared position outside the male heteronormative world,
Sappho villainizes men, portraying them as a threat to both Philaenis and herself. When attempting to bring Philaenis back to her, she states that the “soft
boy” and “[h]is chin, a thorny, hairy uneveness / Doth threaten, and some
daily change possess” (31, 33-34). This villainization, here positioning the male
lover as a threat to Philaenis, continues as Sappho characterizes a man’s relation to a woman in terms of agriculture, ownership, and theft. She says, “Thy
body is a natural paradise, / In whose self, unmanured, all pleasure lies” (35-36).
Sappho suggests Philaenis already possesses perfection similar to a beautiful
and untouched land, and immediately after creating this image of paradise, she
presents men as threatening it.18 She asks Philaenis, why “[a]dmit the tillage of
a harsh rough man?” (38). Her use of agricultural terms such as “unmanured”—
meaning unfertilized—and “tillage” figures women’s bodies as land that men
seize and sexually “till”: dominate, compromise, and possess through pregnancy.19 Sappho further connects possession and heterosexual union when she
warns, “Men leave behind them that which their sin shows, / And are as thieves
traced, which rob when it snows” (39-40). By comparing men to thieves, she
not presents their actions as not only dangerous but also criminal. In this passage, Sappho indicates that men and the male heteronormative world serve as a
threat not only to Philaenis but also to women in general.
In addition to portraying men as a threat, Sappho also discounts any need
for them in her world, thus triggering the dissolution of Sappho and Philaenis
into one another. After presenting men as the enemy, Sappho states, “But of
our dalliance no more signs there are, / Than fishes leave in streams, or birds in
air” (41-42). Sappho celebrates love between women, claiming that they can
find pleasure without degradation and can love without possession.20 However, Sappho’s characterization of this utopia highlights the issue that has been
escalating since the beginning of the elegy: how can women be identified outside the heteronormative male world? In lines 41-42, Sappho admits that the
removal of men introduces an absence of signification, an inability to identify
both of them. Their love cannot participate in the language of domination
that characterizes masculine love poetry.21 In their egalitarian relationship, the
gender hierarchy that normally creates difference and identity in heterosexual
relationships ceases to exist. Without men, there are no “signs” of what both
Sappho and Philaenis are. This statement initiates the final collapse of representation and language found in the convolution of both Philaenis’ and Sappho’s
identities towards the conclusion of the elegy.
Due to the absence of language and representation outside of a male heteronormative world, both Philaenis’ and Sappho’s identities begin to collapse
into each other, and the result is an arbitrary representation of themselves. In
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comparisons of Philaenis to the gods, to nature, to Phaon, and to men in general all fail to represent or characterize Philaenis fully. Language proves to be
insufficient, just as she lamented in the beginning of the elegy. In a final attempt at description, Sappho resorts to using her own body as a method of
representation for Philaenis. She states,
And oh, no more; the likeness being such,
Why should they not alike in all parts touch?
Likeness begets such strange self flattery,
That touching myself, all seems done to thee. (47-52)
In an attempt to convince Philaenis to be with her, Sappho tries to craft a sense
of visual unity between the pair by equating her own body with Philaenis’.
Her stress on likeness and symmetry further perpetuates the egalitarian lesbian
utopia that Sappho has been building throughout the elegy. However, since
Sappho uses her body to create a tangible image of Philaenis, their identities
begin to falter, resulting in the fusion of their identities. By stating that the act
of touching herself translates into touching Philaenis, the two women’s separate identities form into one, as it “all seems done to thee” (52). While the mirror may seem to provide a desirable union, both women lose their individuality
and end up with unidentifiable, indistinguishable images. Sappho understands
that this union is another failed representation when she laments, “Me, in my
glass, I call thee; but alas, / When I would kiss, tears dim mine eyes, and glass”
(55-56). With the already unstable image of Philaenis, Sappho’s own image
collapses too. As Sappho laments the dissolution of Philaenis, she also laments
the loss of her own identity, which results from her having tried to place Philaenis through comparison. Finally, the image she has been trying to create
throughout the elegy has disappeared along with herself. Sappho mourns the
loss her own identity through this method of comparison, crying out, “O cure
this loving madness, and restore / Me to me; thee, my half, my all, my more”
(57-58). In these two lines, Sappho recognizes that she lost her identity in attempt to represent Philaenis, and she begs to be made whole again. Ultimately,
the elegy concludes with a deconstructed representation of both women, as
they transform into one faulty image.
This final and arbitrary representation of both Sappho and Philaenis results
from the inability of language to represent these two women fully outside the
male heterosexual world. James Holstun argues that “[w]ithout the mediating
domination of man, feminine identity liquifies; a woman’s relation to herself
and her relation to another woman are equally insignificant.”22 As Holstun
(together with Donne’s Sappho) observes, the traditional understanding of
femininity collapses without men. The lesbian eroticism present in the elegy
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femininity do not apply to the lovers’ relationship. Since the elegy discards the
framework of the gender binary, the language and representation used to understand gender, women, and femininity is insufficient. Therefore, as Sappho
pushes Philaenis and herself further outside the confines of the heterosexual
world, language fails them, and their identities become increasingly unidentifiable and vague until they finally collapse into one another. By going outside
the bounds of the gender binary, they push the limits of language and representation, causing their identities to fall apart.
Holstun argues that this collapse of identity and the failure of lesbian love
explain and perpetuate the silence around lesbianism in the Renaissance.23 He
claims that while Donne presents a rather sympathetic view of lesbianism, the
poet masters lesbian eroticism by subordinating it to a patriarchal understanding of language and the world. Holstun argues that this subordination occurs
through Sappho’s failure to create a love poem with a language not mediated
by men, and this failure amounts to the censorship of the female voice, a way
of neutralizing the threat of women to the patriarchy—it represents the overall victory of patriarchal ideals. Yet other readings are possible. Indeed, Elizabeth Harvey’s discussion of Donne’s appropriation of the fifteenth epistle from
Heroides, taken alongside Judith Butler’s Gender Trouble, helps to explain how
the deconstruction and failure of language, representation, and identity in the
poem act to destabilize the construction of gender and patriarchal authority
rather than affirm it.
Many scholars, including both Holstun and Harvey, have treated the subject matter and form of Donne’s “Sappho to Philaenis” as a direct response to
Ovid’s “Sappho to Phaon.” As noted above, Ovid’s Sappho commits suicide by
throwing herself off a cliff when her male lover Phaon rejects her.24 In Ovid’s
story, Sappho details the failure of her poetic ability and vehemently dismisses
her lesbian past, thus transforming herself into a heterosexual woman.25 Unlike
Ovid, Donne portrays a lesbian woman who seeks to establish her own agency
and her relationship with another woman away from male influence.26 Donne’s
Sappho strives to create a utopian female eroticism and a new language to describe that experience. While the appropriation of female voices has served historically as a way to censor and silence women, the way in which Donne positions Sappho results in something different. Throughout the elegy, Donne has
subtracted male influence, not only by centering the elegy on a lesbian Sappho
but also by dismissing male Petrarchan ideals and by positing men as a threat
to the lovers’ utopian union. Paula Blank argues that this dismissal of male influence is not related to sexuality and gender at all. She claims that Donne does
not question lesbian desire in this elegy; rather he challenges homo-erotics, the
method (popular among Donne’s contemporaries) of creating sexual identities
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decision to portray Sappho as a lesbian woman, which contrasts with Ovid’s
portrayal, proves otherwise. Even if Donne is not directly responding to Ovid,
but rather attempting in some way to access the Greek poet herself, one idea
still holds true: by making a point of Sappho’s sexuality, Donne places gender
and sexuality at the forefront of the elegy. Donne’s use of a lesbian female voice
makes his subtraction of the male influence not simply a critique of Petrarchism
and his contemporaries, as Blank claims. Rather, it prompts questions about
gender signification and essentialist notions about sexuality.
Harvey expands on this point, arguing that Donne’s ventriloquism of the
female voice “continually subverts the ontological security of a text, its discrete
historical boundaries, and its status as self-contained property, the phenomenon of transvestite phonocentrism.”28 While Holstun claims that Donne silences the lesbian voice, Harvey argues that this “ventriloquistic cross-dressing”
destabilizes gender signification and allows for a marginalized voice to come
forward. In “Sappho to Philaenis,” Donne transgresses the laws of gender by
taking on the female voice. Harvey argues that this sexual transgression separates the author from the voice, destabilizing not only authorship generally
but male authorship in particular. This borrowing of the lesbian female voice
undermines male authorial power over the text, which ultimately works to
dismantle phallogocentrism itself.29 This instability of authorial identity caused
by assuming the lesbian female voice augments the challenge to the essentialist
notion of gender that Sappho introduces in the elegy. As shown above, Sappho
disregards the rules of signification as they relate to gender. She repeatedly
questions the conventions of the male-defined world as she rejects Phaon, male
love tropes, and men in general. Diane Benet confirms this challenge when
she states that man’s superfluous status in the paradise Sappho constructs seems
to be questioning conventionalized roles of gender.30 In questioning the fixed
roles of gender, both Donne’s and Sappho’s identities are deconstructive. The
loss of Donne’s masculine authorial identity (when he transgresses the laws of
gender) mirrors the way in which Sappho and Philaenis lose their identities
when they commit their sexual transgression by rejecting the male-defined
heteronormative world. Harvey’s observation about Donne’s use of the female
voice undermines Holston’s conclusion about the victory of patriarchal ideals
in “Sappho to Philaenis.” Donne’s use of the female voice does not silence Sappho, as Ovid had done. Instead, Donne uses the lesbian voice to subvert and
destabilize the security of gender signification, which allows for new identities
and questions to arise by breaking the normal categorization gender roles prescribe. Therefore, the failure of language and representation in Donne’s love
elegy need not indicate the censorship of the female voice, as Holstun argues.
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nature of gender essentialism and highlights the need for a new language to
describe those who fall outside traditional categories.
This understanding of Donne’s ventriloquism as well as Sappho’s own subversive identity can be further understood in light of Judith Butler’s Gender
Trouble, which explores the performative nature of gender, arguing that gender
identity is sustained through the performative suggestions that constitute its
reality.31 The expectations for gender identity are determined by society and
pressed upon people, and only through reiterative performance does essentialist
gender identity take shape. As part of this study, Butler explores the effect of
subverting such performances through drag. “In imitating gender,” she writes,
“drag implicitly reveals the imitative structure of gender itself—as well as its
contingency.”32 Butler observes that when men mimic the cultural ideal of
femininity, they reveal the constructed and performative nature of gender itself. In other words, through subversion, they unveil gender’s construction. In
the same way, Donne’s ventriloquism of Sappho reveals gender’s constructed
nature. By using the female voice, Donne destabilizes the security of gender
signification and male authorial power, as Harvey suggests. This idea also helps
to explain the inner workings of the elegy itself. Sappho breaks the social performance meant to show femininity in women, and by doing so, she disrupts
the world around her. Sappho’s act of breaking the performative expectations
for her gender thus matches what Butler calls the proliferation of “gender configurations outside the restricting frames of masculinist domination and compulsory heterosexuality.”33 As a result, the language and representation defined
by those conventions of gender no longer apply. For this reason, when both
Sappho and Philaenis break their performative expectations, they also lose the
language previously used to identify them. This subversion of the traditional
gender binary initiates the deconstruction of their defined identities. Since they
exist outside categorization, the language and representation of those categories no longer apply, and their identity begins to unravel. Therefore, the breakdown of feminine identity in “Sappho to Philaenis” does not reveal the triumph
of patriarchal ideals, as Holstun argues. Rather, the breakdown of language and
representation reveals the limits of the performative gender identity that the
patriarchy requires of both men and women. Ultimately, in “Sappho to Philaenis,” both Sappho and Donne highlight the performative nature of gender
to reveal the constructed nature of gender expectations and the need for new
language and representation to emerge.
Ultimately, this failure of representation signifies that women cannot exist
outside the male-centric heteronormative world. This failure is reminiscent of
the Lacanian idea that “the woman does not exist” and that women are “notalls,” as they hold no universality.34 In response to this notion, French feminist Luce Irigaray claims that “the female all will come,” thus promising the

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emancipation of women from men.35 In the same way, “Sappho to Philaenis”
suggests emancipation—or at least performs an attempt of it. In the elegy, Donne both embraces and confronts male anxiety by creating a world in which
gender roles are subverted and men are unnecessary. While this world ultimately collapses in a crisis of language and representation, Donne showcases
the opportunity for the “female-all” to one day come, just as Irigaray suggests.
Irigaray concludes her essay by commenting on the crisis of female language
and representation: “If we (women) don’t invent a language, if we don’t find
our body’s language, its gestures will be too few to accompany our story.”36
“Sappho to Philaenis” begins and ends with a crisis of representation. Sappho
laments her inability to identify Philaenis as both language and images fail her,
and she then pinpoints the source of this failure in the inability of the male
heteronormative world to represent their experience. As a result, she tries to
use her own body—to create her “own body’s language,” as Irigaray puts it—in
order to represent their own experience and being separate from men. However, her body is not enough. Sappho does not have the “gestures” or “language”
to tell her story. The crisis of language and representation escalates, and Sappho and Philaenis only define each other by themselves, producing a collapsed
image of both women. Their inability to define themselves separately from
men shows the need to create linguistic gestures of the body that resist existing
categorization. By exploring the issue of female language and representation
outside the realm of men, Donne questions the power of categorization and
challenges the ways in which masculinity, femininity, and heterosexuality are
defined, understood, and normalized.
Kristina Reinis is a junior majoring in English and Art and Art History. She
prepared this essay as part of her Mellon Summer Undergraduate Research
Fellowship in the Humanities in Summer 2018, working under the direction
of Professor Willis Salomon.

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Robert Dod and John Cleaver, A godly form of household government, in Renaissance Woman: A
Sourcebook: Constructions of Femininity in England, ed. Kate Aughterson (London: Routledge,
1995), 81.
Henry Smith, A preparative to marriage, in Renaissance Woman, ed. Aughterson, 83. For further
examples, see Juan Luis Vives, The instruction of a Christian woman, and William Gouge, Of
domestical duties, in Renaissance Woman, ed. Aughterson, 69-74 and 88-95, respectively.
Mark Breitenberg, Anxious Masculinity in Early Modern England (Cambridge: Cambridge
University Press, 1996), 2.
Diana Trevino Benet, “Sexual Transgression in Donne’s Elegies,” Modern Philology 92.1
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While there was an awareness of gay men in the Renaissance, women lacked the freedom
to establish a subculture in which lesbian identity could form. This inability to create this
identity explains the lack of literary accounts of lesbianism. James, Holstun “‘Will you
Rent our Ancient Love Asunder?’: Lesbian Elegy in Donne, Marvell, and Milton,” ELH
54.4 (1987): 835, notes that since literature is a fraternal order, “we tend to find more
accounts of men loving women or other men than of women loving each other.”
Barbara Correll, “Symbolic Economies and Zero-Sum Erotics: Donne’s ‘Sappho to Philaenis,’” ELH 62.3 (1995): 489.
Many of John Donne’s elegies were censored in the late Tudor and early Stuart periods.
“The Anagram,” “To his Mistress going to bed,” “The Bracelet,” “Love’s Progress,” “His
Parting from her,” and “Sappho to Philaenis” were censored in part or in whole due to
sexually explicit language. Ted-Larry Pebworth, “The Early Censorship of John Donne’s Elegies and ‘Sappho to Philaenis’ in Manuscript and Print,” Text 13 (2000): 193-201,
explores how each instance of censorship deals strove to alter Donne’s work to make it
conform to the norms of Renaissance England. In the case of “Sappho to Philaenis,” which
was published with the full volume of Donne’s work in 1633, a section was censored (lines
51-54), thus transforming the poem from a lesbian love elegy into (as Pebworth says) an
elegy about “idealized friendship between two women” (200). The elegy continued to be
censored or dismissed well into the twentieth century, as many scholars—most famously
Helen Gardner—believed that the subject matter, style, and voice were too out of character to belong in Donne’s canon. It was not until scholarship until the 1980s that “Sappho
to Philaenis” began to receive proper attention. Recent critics have embraced the elegy
and have argued that it provides further insight to Donne’s view of sexuality and gender
roles. See Stella Revard, “The Sapphic Voice in Donne’s “Sappho to Philaenis,” in Renaissance Discourses of Desire, eds. Claude J. Summers and Ted-Larry Pebsworth (Columbia:
University of Missouri Press, 1993), esp. 63-64.
Stanley Fish, “Masculine Persuasive Force: Donne and Verbal Power,” in Soliciting Interpretation: Literary Theory and Seventeenth-Century English Poetry, ed. Elizabeth Harvey and
Katharine Maus (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1990), 233.
All quotations from Donne (cited parenthetically by line numbers) are from The Complete
English Poems, ed. A. J. Smith (London: Penguin Classics, 1977).
Sappho was a prolific Grecian female poet who lived from 630 BCE to 580 BCE. Her
lyric poetry consisted of passionate love poems addressed to young women. She was revered by ancient commentators as equal to Homer, and Plato referred to her as the “Tenth
Muse.” However, we only have fragments of her work, as the open lesbian desire depicted
in her writings led them to be burned by the bishop of Constantinople in about 380 CE.
See Shelley A. Thrasher, “Sappho,” in Dictionary of World Biography: The Ancient World
(1998), 1-2.
The only information on Philaenis comes from epigrams in the Greek Anthology, where
she is found at the center of a debate of disputed authorship. Her name was connected
with what Elizabeth D. Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices: Feminist Theory and English Renaissance Texts (London: Routledge, 1995), 125-126, calls an “erotic guidebook that furnished
its readers with explicit information about diverse sexual practices and positions.” Harvey
argues that Donne’s selection of her as the love object comes from the facts that both
women wrote erotic works, that both were thought to be immoral and licentious, and
that the sexuality of both prompted questioning about authorship.
Correll, “Symbolic Economies,” 93.
H. L. Meakin, John Donne’s Articulations of the Feminine (Oxford: Clarendon, 1998), 12.
As Donald Guss, John Donne, Petrarchist: Italianate Conceits and Love Theory in The Songs
and Sonnets (Detroit: Wayne State University Press, 1966), 18, puts it, Petrarchan poetry

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is characterized by “fantastic arguments, emotional extravagance, and peregrine comparisons.” In the sixteenth century, this mode of poetry became popular among male poets
throughout Europe. Petrarchan poetry usually consists of a male-centered narrative in
which the main character chooses love as his way of life. There are many tropes and
themes that make up this tradition, such as the initiation of love, complaining against a
woman’s stubborn will, grieving the end of a love, an elegy of a woman’s death, or the
renunciation of love. See further Guss, Donne, Petrarchist, 49-50.
Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices, 118
Scholars have understood Donne’s use of the Sapphic voice as borrowed from Ovid’s fifteenth epistle “Sappho to Phaon” in the Heroides, a collection of letters centered around
women who write to lovers who had abandoned them (Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices,
119). In his epistle, Ovid presents Sappho as a straight, desperate, and suicidal woman who
yearns for the attention a young man named Phaon, who continually rejects her until
she feels pushed to take her own life. In her suffering, Ovid’s Sappho loses her ability to
write and speak, and she laments the loss of the poetic skill and power she once possessed
(Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices, 121). In addition, Ovid’s Sappho resists her lesbian past by
chastising her previous female attraction in favor of her now heterosexual attraction. See
Janel Mueller, “Lesbian Erotics: The Utopian Trope of Donne’s ‘Sapho to Philaenis,’” in
Homosexuality in Renaissance and Enlightenment England: Literary Representations in Historical Context, ed. Claude J. Summers (New York: Haworth Press, 1992), 106.
Revard, “Sapphic Voice,” 68.
Benet, “Sexual Transgression,” 23.
Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices, 131.
Ibid.
Holstun, “Lesbian Elegy,” 840 (see above, n. 5, for full citation).
Ibid., 843.
Ibid., 846-847.
Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices, 118. See too Revard, “Sapphic Voice,” 67.
Many scholars have understood Ovid’s use of the Sapphic voice as a way to subordinate
Sappho’s own voice to his own. Harvey and Mueller argue that by taking away her poetic
voice, lesbian identity, and ultimately her life in his epistle, Ovid creates a distorted vision
of Sappho and feminine desire. Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices, 124, argues that his characterization ultimately turns Sappho into a parody of the female voice, ultimately offering
Sappho’s own poetic voice for comic scrutiny.
Mueller, “Lesbian Erotics,” 104.
Paula Blank, “Comparing Sappho to Philaenis: John Donne’s ‘Homopoetics,’” PMLA
110.3 (1995): 364
Harvey, Ventriloquized Voices, 133.
Ibid.
Benet, “Sexual Transgression,” 25.
Judith Butler, Gender Trouble (London: Routledge, 1990), 285.
Ibid, 187.
Ibid., 193.
Luce Irigaray,“When Our Lips Speak Together,” tr. Carolyn Burke, Signs 6.1 (1980): 75
n. 12.
Ibid., 75.
Ibid., 76.

The Farcical Suicide:
Stoicism and the Satyricon
Carl Teegerstrom

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toicism was one of the most popular philosophies in the Roman Empire, with practitioners ranging from the freedman Epictetus to the
Emperor Marcus Aurelius. Reflecting this popularity, the courtier-author
Petronius (d. c. 66) alludes to and satirizes stoicism, and particularly the stoic
philosopher Seneca the Younger (d. 65), in his novel the Satyricon.1 Hunting
for such allusions, for example, Sarah Ruden suggests that the freedman Maecenatianus from Trimalchio’s dinner could be a reference to the aesthete Maecenas discussed in one of Seneca’s letters.2 Petronius’ irony makes it difficult
to determine his opinions with any certainty, but his depiction of suicide, a
practice acceptable and at times revered under stoicism, suggests his skepticism
regarding the nobility of this philosophical system. Indeed, the Satyricon critiques stoicism by using exaggeration and bathetic circumstances to reveal the
performativity of suicide and stoicism more generally.
In stoic philosophy, suicide was (as Ruden puts it) “a religious act, one
signifying the ultimate transcendence of the human will over circumstance,”
and, for a stoic, a greater crime than taking one’s life would be “acting as if life
mattered.”3 In his sixty-fifth letter, for example, Seneca wrote of the body as
nothing more than “a chain set around [his] liberty,” restricting his “free spirit,”
and he maintained that his “flesh will never force [him] to suffer fear or adopt
a pretense unworthy of a good man.” Instead, he would “break off association
with it” (65.21-22).4 Some writers praised these suicides. Pliny the Younger
wrote of Arria stabbing herself to convince her husband Caecina Paetus to
do the same after a failed rebellion against the Emperor Claudius. According
to Pliny, after stabbing herself, she reassured her husband, “It does not hurt,

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